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[edit] Entry: (January 9th, 2008 1:41pm)

[edit] The suggestions on what we should create an image of with the Gardner Project device (direct link)
Here’s a few of the suggestions we’ve gotten via email on what we should be generating images of with our device. They’re trying to come up with the best way to avoid the “observer effect“.

So here’s some of the many terrific emails we’ve received on the subject (and a few of the absurd fun ones too).

Ok, we’ve all done this before.
The old handy-cam video feedback loop “effect”.
Take your camera’s video output and plug it into the TV’s input.
Select your input channel and point the camera at the television.

Hadn’t considered this but I’m not sure it will work. Reason being that we would have to have the television there and recording with the device at the date in the future the present device picks it up. But if we plan for that… then we might be able to. So let’s tentatively give this suggestion a “maybe, perhaps yes.”

Hi, I saw your site and was impressed with the developments of the project. I wonder if you could try it out on a living organism, like, a human perhaps?

Dr. Bentley and team,
Have you tried taking a picture of the device readout/display? Perhaps you’ll be seeing a picture of 1191 days into the future of whatever the device should take a picture of 1191 days from the present.
Perhaps you should take a picture of one of your staff members. But when you take the picture, make sure you make a date for the same employee to be standing in the same place exactly 1191 days from whenever you do.


So yeah, as above this seems to be a common suggestion so perhaps we should try it… We’ll try both ways, with the monitor and with a staff member. Thanks for this great idea.

What about taking a picture of an object, then whatever happens to the object in the picture, try to ensure that it won’t happen, i.e. take a picture of a young tree, the picture reveals that the tree has grown into a larger tree. Instead of allowing it to happen, destroy the tree. Dig it up and burn it. But only if the picture shows that the tree grew.

Another great suggestion. My feeling is that it will simply change the next time we take a photograph, but the concept of it is solid. We shall attempt to create an experiment similar in concept.

It might be interesting to look into the future for things like law enforcement. Of course, if you’ve read Minority Report, or seen Terminator, you know how badly things can go wrong.

Indeed the future can be a scary place.

Take a picture of the stock market listings in the newspaper. Then make
a killing in three years and buy Bermuda.

That’s a bit unbecoming of a professional research team… (I’ll wait for my spare time to try that heh).

Hi there, it’s always nice to see innovative and small research labs push the proverbial envelope. Anyways, since you invited feedback, I just thought I’d share some thoughts of mine…

Now, it’s been quite some time since I’ve kept up with the latest in particle physics. Tachyons and such echo dimly in my head, relics of forgotten Science articles. But I like to think I have the general concepts down. You seem to be treating tachyons like photons, right? You compared light from distant stars with tachyons from the future. Your device uses these tachyons to develop “photos” in a manner akin to regular cameras. We’ll skip the math and the various issues of quanta and such and just simplify it to: “Tachyons = future photons, traveling backwards.”

Schrödinger’s cat remains both alive and dead, simultaneously, until some measurement (be it conscious observer, or picture, or anything) collapses the superposition. Scientists have captured the superpositions of many particles, even larger molecules. Stay with me here, I swear there’s a point to this all. =P

It’s theorized that when one photon leaves its source (say, a supernova) it travels on an infinite array of possible paths throughout the universe, but some stargazer down below, playing the role of conscious observer, will collapse the photon’s many quantum states and possibilities (á la wave function) into the simplest, straightest path. The most probable path.

So, if we treat tachyons as photons, isn’t your Gardener device playing the role of stargazer? There’s no paradox or whatnot here, because all your camera shows is the most probably arrangement of all the tachyons at the moment of capture. The very act of capturing and viewing the photo, changes probabilities and everything, but at the moment of capture, you’re simply capturing the most probable of the above.

Am I off here, in my reasoning? Do you all have any papers or documents clearing this up? I’d be very much interested into what device inspired your own Gardener device.

Well, nonetheless, thanks for hearing my (misinformed, probably) ramblings, and keep up the good work!


jdl, We think your comments on the device functioning as a “stargazer” are indeed right on the mark. We’re not seeing a definite future, but rather a probable one influenced by the very act of seeing it. Then we can react according to that information and the next image would become the most probable scenario yet influenced by the knowledge of the tachyon particle image.

Take a look at Times Square...

Several folks suggested Times Square, but our company is based in the Bay Area so we’re not able to travel currently, though perhaps we can do so soon (weeks).


Just curious if EniTech is in any way related to or working with Cyberdyne Systems Corporation?


Thanks Chris, though Dr. Bentley had worked with Cyberdyne Systems before the tragic incident in 1991, the company to the best of my knowledge is no longer around and we are not a part or working with them.


Regarding the question of what to take pictures of next, how about a car showroom? Would be a good way of test and prove the device and of getting a glimpse of future designs.


Alright maybe, but I think the car lot owners might get rather nervous seeing us watch them with the device. I have an uncle who owns a lot south of the city and I can try talking to him about getting something setup for next week.

Taking a picture of a person would tell if the device works. Someone middle aged, so that you could identify in which direction this works.


Again see above, we’ll work on that.

Sit em in front of volcanos, dams or even at a tv that only displays a weather map, this way you can at least try to save lives from natural disasters. It’s not changing the future, it’s just being aware of it. Think of it as future forcasting, do I need an umbrella on my trip to hawaii 3 years from now

Send us the tickets to Hawaii and we’ll be happy to try it out there.

Dear Enitech
For me the obvious idea is to take a picture of a newspaper stands or distribution boxes (the boxes that you put change into and take a paper) and hope that the same or similar structure is present three years in the future. Again, hopefully, the text size of headlines will be large enough to read through the grainy pictures featured on your video (which I saw posted on io9.com (its a blog of sorts). Other places that display news (or stock prices!) such as the scrolling lighted text at Time Square could work as well. Also, why not conduct a more philosophical experiment and convince one or all of your staff to meet at a certain location in 1191 days and take a picture of said location. I wish you all the best for your research and will occasionally visit your site to see what others have suggested. Good Luck.

Several people suggested this and we will be trying the newspaper stand suggestion I think.

Dear Enitech,
I need you to take a picture of my belly. I am starting a rigorous conditioning program and I need to know if it is going to work!
Do I finally get the six pack abs I have always wanted?

Hard to say. There’s no fate but what we make.

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